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	<title>Comments on: To all the ungrateful Star Trek fans</title>
	<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/</link>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-3691</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Even cool people…the ones that used to beat you up in gym!"

Exactly what i was thinking! the movie was totally a CGI flick. Had they called it "Space Action movie" i would have liked it. the whole "lets appeal to a whole new segment of fans" is BS we are the fans who bought the DVD box sets of DS9. Show us some love. the other folks don't give a flying Frak about Star Trek. they will forget about it in a Centon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even cool people…the ones that used to beat you up in gym!&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly what i was thinking! the movie was totally a CGI flick. Had they called it &#8220;Space Action movie&#8221; i would have liked it. the whole &#8220;lets appeal to a whole new segment of fans&#8221; is BS we are the fans who bought the DVD box sets of DS9. Show us some love. the other folks don&#8217;t give a flying Frak about Star Trek. they will forget about it in a Centon.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-371</guid>
		<description>Steve, just wanted to say that the fact that you are in the film is the best reason to go see it, and of course I will.  THAT'S exciting.  The rest, though, the jury is out in my mind.  So...sorry if I seem a little beligerent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, just wanted to say that the fact that you are in the film is the best reason to go see it, and of course I will.  THAT&#8217;S exciting.  The rest, though, the jury is out in my mind.  So&#8230;sorry if I seem a little beligerent.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-369</guid>
		<description>And have you seen the NEW Enterprise that we are to get on board?  It's a monstrosity.  I never thought I'd ever see a design that was actually less graceful than a Borg ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And have you seen the NEW Enterprise that we are to get on board?  It&#8217;s a monstrosity.  I never thought I&#8217;d ever see a design that was actually less graceful than a Borg ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-368</guid>
		<description>To beat a dead horse further: 

Steve [sigh],

Hollywood wouldn't bother making another movie if they didn't think they could make more money off the franchise with this new, hip, cool director -- who wasn't even a fan of the original series.  There is absolutley nothing altruistic about this project.  

And all of us Trekkie fans who should count themselves lucky to be getting another movie are the same people who wished they stopped making them after Star Trek IV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To beat a dead horse further: </p>
<p>Steve [sigh],</p>
<p>Hollywood wouldn&#8217;t bother making another movie if they didn&#8217;t think they could make more money off the franchise with this new, hip, cool director &#8212; who wasn&#8217;t even a fan of the original series.  There is absolutley nothing altruistic about this project.  </p>
<p>And all of us Trekkie fans who should count themselves lucky to be getting another movie are the same people who wished they stopped making them after Star Trek IV.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-356</guid>
		<description>I will say that I am glad JJ kept the bright colored shirts, circa original series.  That is so awesome.  I'm glad they didn't try to put them in some kind of horrible jump suit/spandex condom (e.g. Enterprise series, the first few season of TNG).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say that I am glad JJ kept the bright colored shirts, circa original series.  That is so awesome.  I&#8217;m glad they didn&#8217;t try to put them in some kind of horrible jump suit/spandex condom (e.g. Enterprise series, the first few season of TNG).</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-355</guid>
		<description>I know.  I fee like a huge nerd.  But Kirk is my fav character of all TV so...I tend to get passionate about this stuff.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know.  I fee like a huge nerd.  But Kirk is my fav character of all TV so&#8230;I tend to get passionate about this stuff.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: steveracer</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>steveracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-354</guid>
		<description>Dude, you really need to start your own blog. Your comment is longer than my post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you really need to start your own blog. Your comment is longer than my post!</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-353</guid>
		<description>And one more thing (I can't believe this matters so much to me...but I USED to love Star Trek, until these 9 million attempts to appeal to new fans ruined it): anytime someone says they are trying to make the series "appeal to a whole new generation of fans", I start picking out headstones.  That means it has died, and the new writers and directors have no idea what direction to go in or what they are doing.  In this case, Star Trek has already died.  By appealing to new fans, they are trying to resurrect it.  I wouldn't go picking out shovels just yet, though. 

The problem with Trek, is not that the fans are too serious, and stubborn, and won't accept changes.  On the contrary.  The problem is that it has deviated just waaay to much to be either believable or good.   It can't figure out what it wants to be.  Does it want to be a James Bond type series, where there is no pretense of continuity, and actions of previous movies are never really mentioned or referred to in subsequent movies; like, each movie is a stand-alone.  Or does it want to be a true series, where the movies build on each other in some kind of sensible time-line.  In waffling between these two approaches, it is muddled, confusing, and silly.  

It seems to me, that these Trek movie-makers want their cake and eat it to.  They want to make all kinds of changes to Trek, so that things are contradicted from big to small, and the fans are just supposed to accept it instead of seeing it for what it is: an attempt to keep making money at their expense.  Hey, here's Trek!  Now we know we've changed a lot of things, and this will only sort of approximate the Trek you know and love, but, hey, get over it!  Stop being such a fuddy-duddy about it.  It's just Hollywood, you big, giant, sexually-challenged nerd!  Stop being such a huge sci-fi Trek dork!  Um...wait.  Don't change yet.  Come see this NEW Trek movie, and then you can stop being a dork.  Well, not that it matters, because this new movie will be so cool that EVERYONE, a whole-new generation, will want to see it.  Even cool people...the ones that used to beat you up in gym!  

I have high hopes for this movie, because it looks great.  But I believe that skeptic fans have a right to be skeptic.  Every movie since four has basically been horrible.  I hope this is not just an attempt to dazzle us with new-fangled CGI effects and to squeeze just a little more juice out of this shriveled lemon.  I hope not.  I really do.  Because I love Trek.  Which is why I'm writing these posts like a moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one more thing (I can&#8217;t believe this matters so much to me&#8230;but I USED to love Star Trek, until these 9 million attempts to appeal to new fans ruined it): anytime someone says they are trying to make the series &#8220;appeal to a whole new generation of fans&#8221;, I start picking out headstones.  That means it has died, and the new writers and directors have no idea what direction to go in or what they are doing.  In this case, Star Trek has already died.  By appealing to new fans, they are trying to resurrect it.  I wouldn&#8217;t go picking out shovels just yet, though. </p>
<p>The problem with Trek, is not that the fans are too serious, and stubborn, and won&#8217;t accept changes.  On the contrary.  The problem is that it has deviated just waaay to much to be either believable or good.   It can&#8217;t figure out what it wants to be.  Does it want to be a James Bond type series, where there is no pretense of continuity, and actions of previous movies are never really mentioned or referred to in subsequent movies; like, each movie is a stand-alone.  Or does it want to be a true series, where the movies build on each other in some kind of sensible time-line.  In waffling between these two approaches, it is muddled, confusing, and silly.  </p>
<p>It seems to me, that these Trek movie-makers want their cake and eat it to.  They want to make all kinds of changes to Trek, so that things are contradicted from big to small, and the fans are just supposed to accept it instead of seeing it for what it is: an attempt to keep making money at their expense.  Hey, here&#8217;s Trek!  Now we know we&#8217;ve changed a lot of things, and this will only sort of approximate the Trek you know and love, but, hey, get over it!  Stop being such a fuddy-duddy about it.  It&#8217;s just Hollywood, you big, giant, sexually-challenged nerd!  Stop being such a huge sci-fi Trek dork!  Um&#8230;wait.  Don&#8217;t change yet.  Come see this NEW Trek movie, and then you can stop being a dork.  Well, not that it matters, because this new movie will be so cool that EVERYONE, a whole-new generation, will want to see it.  Even cool people&#8230;the ones that used to beat you up in gym!  </p>
<p>I have high hopes for this movie, because it looks great.  But I believe that skeptic fans have a right to be skeptic.  Every movie since four has basically been horrible.  I hope this is not just an attempt to dazzle us with new-fangled CGI effects and to squeeze just a little more juice out of this shriveled lemon.  I hope not.  I really do.  Because I love Trek.  Which is why I&#8217;m writing these posts like a moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-351</guid>
		<description>And for the record, I said the "post" would look silly, not you.  

You're a given.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the record, I said the &#8220;post&#8221; would look silly, not you.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re a given.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://steveinhollywood.today.com/2008/11/16/to-all-the-ungrateful-star-trek-fans/#comment-350</guid>
		<description>Umm...yeah.  I know you're really down with Speed Racer, but, no one I know knows who the hell Taejo is, and couldn't have cared less if sasquatch played him.  But Sulu, man...it's Sulu.  We all know who Sulu is.  We all know he is Japanese.

Okay, shouldn't have said silly. I could have said "wrong", or "obvious conflict of interest here."

Wait...I think I just DEFINED the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230;yeah.  I know you&#8217;re really down with Speed Racer, but, no one I know knows who the hell Taejo is, and couldn&#8217;t have cared less if sasquatch played him.  But Sulu, man&#8230;it&#8217;s Sulu.  We all know who Sulu is.  We all know he is Japanese.</p>
<p>Okay, shouldn&#8217;t have said silly. I could have said &#8220;wrong&#8221;, or &#8220;obvious conflict of interest here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait&#8230;I think I just DEFINED the internet.</p>
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